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Arcademy  >  Index  >  EPN talk  >  The end of EP on CityTV. [1]

Author Topic: The end of EP on CityTV.  (Read 3634 times)

http://epn.tv/all/type-of/news/announcement-about-the-future-of-ep/

The end of an era. EP has been on CHMI channel 13/cable 8 (MTN/A-Channel/City CHUM/City Rogers) in Winnipeg for its entire run - 1 year longer than Pokémon has been on YTV!

Y'all already know my thoughts about the show, but seeing as this is a chance for EP to return to its roots, I'd like to reaffirm them...

Cut out the mass media parts (movies, TV, comic books), reduce the mobile gaming content (they were referred to as "casino games" in the latest episode of The Final Bosman - very appropriate, IMO), increase PC gaming coverage (not only were hardcore PC games often reviewed on ROTR in the past, but PC gaming is seeing a MASSIVE resurgence recently - a dedicated E3 conference, anyone?), and maybe bring back Tommy's awesome background music?

EP survived for 13 years in it's classic "games for gamers" format. I would hope that means something... ???

I hope Vic's next broadcast partners let him figure out who the audience for EP should be. As someone who's been watching the show for over a decade, I feel like the Daily-era has been a change for the worst. The last few years have felt like a soulless mass market show with genre fiction and video games taking the place of tabloids. That's not solely due to the inclusion of movies, TV shows, mobile games, etc. either. The crew seemingly lacks the resources to produce a daily show to the same level of quality they once produced two weekly ones.

The biggest downgrade has to be the interview segments. Before we'd get Tommy, Vic or someone else go to a game development studio and talk to the actual staff on a fairly regular basis. We got to hear from the people that have spent the last year+ working on the game. It provided insight in their process and working environment that's very rarely seen. That's been largely (but not entirely: see recent DICE trip) replaced by having the hosts speak to PR reps at conventions (E3, SDCC, Fan Expo, etc.) and general press events. The older episodes certainly had those types of interviews too, but they were from a different era when it wasn't uncommon to have the actual developers man those booths. As E3 has shifted from being an industry gathering to a giant consumer advertisement, we've lost that connection to developers. Nothing interesting ever happens in a present day show floor interview (unless it's at GDC or something) because the interviewee is always reading off a script. Even if there were cool stories/scoops from the dev crew, the fact of the matter is that EP isn't the only one at those places. Other outlets will have covered that convention extensively with live streams, same day uploads, etc. By the time the segment shows up on EP the info it contains may already be old news. I know what I'm asking for isn't always feasible. Vic and co. have to deal with private publishers/developers, balancing schedules, paying for travel and board, etc. But I felt it made for a much better show. Chatting with developers in their natural habitat is something IGN, Gamespot, Polygon, Kotaku, etc. almost never do.

I also think the review format needs an overhaul. I know this year is probably an awful example due to RotR being folded back into EP, but they're too short for a conversation format. Having multiple people offer [potentially] differing opinions is a good way to go about things, but not when it's presented in 2-4 minutes. A lot of the times it feels like we're only getting one or two sentences from each side after they've explained the game/movie/show/device. That's barely long enough for the viewer to conceptualize the product being discussed, let alone see the reviewer's actual opinion on it. I know the show only has so many minutes a day, but I don't think it's a good idea to run skeleton reviews that have had most of their content removed in editing. At least upload a less chopped up version onto the Youtube channel. I think that's why EPN's reviews struggle to gain traffic there. Even when they're day-1 videos, Youtube will probably suggest a far more in-depth review on the right.

I hope this doesn't come across as some old man yelling at the clouds (I'm not that old!), but rather as constructive criticism. EP and ROTR were really the first time I saw the video game industry outside of actually playing a game. There's a lot of competition online in the gaming space, but I think EP still has a place.

EP and ROTR were really the first time I saw the video game industry outside of actually playing a game.

This is key. The classic EP series was far more in-depth on the development side than any gaming media seen today. Even if they didn't have Tommy, it still would've been worth watching - the show had CLASS in spades!

Now they just have the same news as everyone else, but late and condensed.

This is key. The classic EP series was far more in-depth on the development side than any gaming media seen today. Even if they didn't have Tommy, it still would've been worth watching - the show had CLASS in spades!

Now they just have the same news as everyone else, but late and condensed.

There's value in news aggregation, but yeah, EP Daily tends to cover stuff days late and on a very surface level. That might work if the show wasn't aimed at an audience that is locked onto the internet, but the tech and genre fanbases largely are. Even if they're not willing to wade through mountains of individual news articles/videos, there are plenty of similar daily shows on Youtube.

First attack of the show disappeared now electronic playground.  Say it ain't so.    This is not right.   How is this not being picked up?  In the GTA city was showing this at midnight of course many were not watching it,  the times sucked.

With no new content, I have to wonder if G4 Canada is going to get rebranded to Viceland. The network's been dead space for years at this point, but it's even worse now.

I disagree. I really like the added coverage of other nerdy things like comics, movies, TV series, toys etc. The last season was a really good formula and a good mix of reviews/news.

To stay on national TV they'll need to appeal to a broader demographic, it's been pretty much proven that a games-only focus doesn't get the ratings it needs to grow. Folks go to the internet for hyper focused stuff like that.